Friday, April 11, 2008
storm water issues
The spill (redux)
by Max37, 04/11/08 9:06 AM
Re: There are by withabeard, 04/11/08 9:06 AM
With warm regards and due respect, Mr. Beard:
Topic #1
Is it not true that Murphy had no oil spills go off refinery property BEFORE Katrina?
Is it not true that Murphy had no oil spills go off refinery property since they started back up AFTER Katrina?
I'll concede that their not filling the tank contributed to the spill if you'll concede that Katrina caused the spill.
Topic #2
Murphy cleaned up their spill. Who cleaned up all of the other spills in the area? Anyone?
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#1 Murphy Oil had spill go off refinery property in July 2005 with a bypass of the wastewater into the neighborhood canal. Also, many serious problems with the tank farm noted in public record prior to Katrina.
http://edms.deq.louisiana.gov/app/doc/view.aspx?doc=5331752&ob=yes&child=yes
#2 Murphy has not cleaned up the spill. Murphy chose to scape six inches of land in only certain areas of the specific class action area. The class action area is hardly the entire contaminated area.
UPDATE: Murphy Oil's own documents can't hold four inch rain
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0brISkNUPw2RG9fN2VGSkFWbG8/view?usp=sharing
above link to June 2011 storm water study.
Murphy Oil's June 2011 storm water study concludes the piping at outfall #15 does not provide adequate capacity for the peak flow rate resulting from a 25 year rain event. Further, recommendations include:
- increase capacity of the west ditch
-provide a means to retain storm water to prevent sheet flowing off property
- remove a significant portion of the drainage basin acreage to the "west ditch" by redirecting or impound storm water by additional ponds or tankage
-increase capacity retainage of storm water basin on north tank farm property and route a new culvert from the west ditch to these basins.
Ground water and soil contamination in neighborhood.
http://concernedcitizensaroundmurphy.blogspot.com/2010/10/murphy-oil-crude-oil-spill.html
Ground water and soil contamination in tank farm.
http://edms.deq.louisiana.gov/app/doc/view.aspx?doc=8374292&ob=yes&child=yes
Refinery flooding neighborhood in 2009.
around the 4:14 minute mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w34l7_bpkFY
Refinery flooding in Isaac 2012.
http://www.nrc.uscg.mil/reports/rwservlet?standard_web+inc_seq=1022703
http://concernedcitizensaroundmurphy.blogspot.com/p/cloudy-with-chance-of-oil.html
by Max37, 04/11/08 9:06 AM
Re: There are by withabeard, 04/11/08 9:06 AM
With warm regards and due respect, Mr. Beard:
Topic #1
Is it not true that Murphy had no oil spills go off refinery property BEFORE Katrina?
Is it not true that Murphy had no oil spills go off refinery property since they started back up AFTER Katrina?
I'll concede that their not filling the tank contributed to the spill if you'll concede that Katrina caused the spill.
Topic #2
Murphy cleaned up their spill. Who cleaned up all of the other spills in the area? Anyone?
-------------------------------------------------------------
#1 Murphy Oil had spill go off refinery property in July 2005 with a bypass of the wastewater into the neighborhood canal. Also, many serious problems with the tank farm noted in public record prior to Katrina.
http://edms.deq.louisiana.gov/app/doc/view.aspx?doc=5331752&ob=yes&child=yes
#2 Murphy has not cleaned up the spill. Murphy chose to scape six inches of land in only certain areas of the specific class action area. The class action area is hardly the entire contaminated area.
UPDATE: Murphy Oil's own documents can't hold four inch rain
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0brISkNUPw2RG9fN2VGSkFWbG8/view?usp=sharing
above link to June 2011 storm water study.
Murphy Oil's June 2011 storm water study concludes the piping at outfall #15 does not provide adequate capacity for the peak flow rate resulting from a 25 year rain event. Further, recommendations include:
- increase capacity of the west ditch
-provide a means to retain storm water to prevent sheet flowing off property
- remove a significant portion of the drainage basin acreage to the "west ditch" by redirecting or impound storm water by additional ponds or tankage
-increase capacity retainage of storm water basin on north tank farm property and route a new culvert from the west ditch to these basins.
Ground water and soil contamination in neighborhood.
http://concernedcitizensaroundmurphy.blogspot.com/2010/10/murphy-oil-crude-oil-spill.html
Ground water and soil contamination in tank farm.
http://edms.deq.louisiana.gov/app/doc/view.aspx?doc=8374292&ob=yes&child=yes
Refinery flooding neighborhood in 2009.
around the 4:14 minute mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w34l7_bpkFY
Refinery flooding in Isaac 2012.
http://www.nrc.uscg.mil/reports/rwservlet?standard_web+inc_seq=1022703
http://concernedcitizensaroundmurphy.blogspot.com/p/cloudy-with-chance-of-oil.html
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